It turns out that three of the podcasts I try and listen to reasonably regularly (The Rest is Politics, The Rest is History and Empire) are made by a company called Goalhanger which is co-owned by Gary Lineker. Alastair Campbell and Rory Stewart actually talk about it in the episode I have embedded above.
Lineker telling them what to say and not what to say on that would be just a ridiculous as the BBC censoring him if you want my opinion.
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